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Political Rewind: Illinois Pension Reform Still Top Priority

It's always good to be caught up on state politics. Here's an easy guide to what happened this week.

Editor's Note: This article was created by aggregating news articles from Illinois Statehouse News that were written by various Illinois Statehouse News reporters.

Week in Review: Illinois Pension Reform Still Top Priority

SPRINGFIELD — The Illinois Capitol was quiet a week after lawmakers closed out the spring legislative session, but pension reform negotiations continue behind closed doors in Chicago

Legislative leaders meet with Quinn in Chicago

The state’s four top legislative leaders met with Gov. Pat Quinn on Wednesday in Chicago to begin hashing out pension reform.

The reform effort fell apart in the final hours of the legislative session, when lawmakers disagreed over shifting some costs to local school districts. Democrats supported the cost-shift, but Republicans said they feared it would lead to property tax hikes.

Quinn met with Senate President John Cullerton, D-Chicago; House Speaker Michael Madigan, D-Chicago; House Republican Leader Tom Cross, R-Oswego; and Senate Republican Leader Christine Radogno, R-.

State officials are gathering information from school districts statewide to find out how shifting some pension costs to them and away from the state would affect their bottom line.

“We can’t have partial solutions. That won’t get the job done,” Quinn told reporters after meeting with the leaders.

The reform package is a top priority for Quinn. If the state’s mounting pension liability goes unaddressed, its bond rating could be downgraded.

State’s unfunded pension liability picture could change

A recalculation of the investment returns in one of the state’s major pension funds could affect reform efforts this summer.

The Teachers Retirement System, the largest state-run public pension system, is recalculating the amount of money it makes on its investments. If the figure is lower than the current expected rate of return of 8.5 percent, the system’s unfunded liability would increase.

Furthermore, if the recalculated rate of return is less than 7.75 percent, the unfunded liability will continue to grow yearly, a state budget expert said.

TRS has an unfunded liability of $44 billion, or 55 percent unfunded, meaning it only has enough assets on hand to cover 45 percent of the cost of current and future pensions.

TRS recalculates its expected rate of return every five years. The latest recommendation to change the rate could come as soon as the system’s June 21-22 board meeting. TRS spokesman Dave Urbanek said no decision has been made, and no options have been presented to board members.

Lawmaker panel recommends discipline for indicted colleague

A panel of state lawmakers on Wednesday recommended that the state House pursue disciplinary action against indicted state Rep. Derrick Smith.

Members of the six-person House Special Investigative Committee, formed to examine a federal bribery charge against Smith, a Chicago Democrat, said their probe is complete, and reasonable grounds exist to pursue discipline against him.

The punishment, if any, could be reprimand, censure or expulsion. A new House committee will meet within the next 30 days to begin deliberating what should happen to Smith, who faces a federal charge of accepting a $7,000 bribe.

The new bipartisan Select Committee on Discipline will be headed by state Reps. Lou Lang, D-Skokie, and Jim Durkin, R-Western Springs. It will have 12 members, or “jurors,” who will be appointed from the House — six from each party. Lang and Durkin will “try” the case, and the jurors will hear the case.

Any recommendation of punishment must go before the full House for a vote. A two-thirds majority is required for punishment to be handed down.

“Personally, it saddens me that we’re here today, not only personally, but on behalf of the institution — to go through this process with one of our members. I wish it were otherwise, but these are the cards we were dealt,” said state Rep. Elaine Nekritz, D-Northbrook, chairwoman of the Special Investigative Committee.

State police settlement money due to former Death Row inmate

A $2.5-million settlement check from the Illinois State Police to former death row inmate Randy Steidl must be in hand by June 15, according to records in a civil rights lawsuit pending in federal court.

State police spokeswoman Monique Bond could not verify whether the agency anticipates any problems getting the settlement money to Steidl by the deadline.

“All I can confirm at this time is that the settlement has been approved,” Bond said.

The settlement was approved in October, but the General Assembly had to appropriate the funds, which will come from the fiscal 2013 budget.

Steidl, who turned 60 last year, spent more than 17 years in prison — 12 on death row — for the 1986 killings of newlyweds Dyke and Karen Rhoads in their Paris, Ill., home. The two were stabbed to death and their house set on fire.

The settlement with the state police, if it goes through, means the agency will be dropped as a defendant in the lawsuit, which is still pending against other defendants, such as the former Edgar County state’s attorney and the City of Paris.

Steidl's attorney Flint Taylor, who works for the People’s Law Office in Chicago, said the state has agreed to pay the settlement by June 15.

“We’re hopeful that’s going to happen. We’re in contact with the lawyers for the state, and they’re making every effort to comply,” he said.

— Jayette Bolinski

Lettuce June 15, 2012 at 01:52 am
It is a sweat deal, Ruth. Real sweaty.
Do you know any teachers, Ruth? Do you know the amount of schoolwork they bring home every night and on weekends? Do you know that more than 50% of teachers take classes and attend eduational symposiums over the summer to stay abreast of urrent trends, research and educational strategies? (They have to PAY for these things, by the way.) Others teach summer school, work on curriculum, and mentor newer teachers. You know what else, Ruth? There are actually teachers who go into schools and work on the weekends! GASP!!! Some even hold study sessions for their students on Saturdays. And hey, Ruth, ask a teacher how much money they spend on things for their classrooms and students every year. Ask them how many extra-curricular events they attend . . . How many fundraisers they support . . . How many parents they call every night??? Perhaps education isn't important to you, Ruth. Perhaps we should pay these lazy teachers minimum wage and give them no benefits. Forget that retirement crap altogether - they don;t need a pension OR Social Security!!! Think of the QUALITY teachers you would have then, Ruth. I bet you wouldn't spend your days working with 32 first graders . . . or try and teach 150 high school kids who would rather be playing video games or hanging out with their friends than be in school. Yeah, Ruth, it's a SWEAT deal indeed. Oh, and by the way, contrary to what you wrote, NOBODY asked you.
Taxpayer_Mike June 15, 2012 at 02:49 am
Lettuce - #1 Please fix your cranial rectal inversion....#2 Ruth can post whatever she wants. #3 Teachers are not the only ones who take work home, work weekends and attend continuing education classes. #4 Most professionals I know don't get an isntitute day. If I have a week of training, I have make up my work. In fact I don't get paid unless I produce revunue for my company and meet my metrics. #5 - Since you decided to admonish tax paying bloggers voicing their literary opinions via keyboard - let me question my you picked a blogging handle well known for spreading the e.coli bacterium.
#6 - I hope more people like ruth chime in - because I am asking.
Ruth June 15, 2012 at 02:56 am
Lettuce, I'm not the only one who thinks you have a pretty good thing going on...read this..."Using Illinois government-school teachers as an example, Zettler makes these points:
•The average retired government-school teacher was a part-time employee with a part-time career. •Teachers work 170 days or 34 weeks a year or less (182 workdays minus 12 sick days or personal days, per the standard teachers’ contract). Teacher pensions that teachers describe as “modest” are four to seven times larger than Social Security. •The average pension in the Teachers Retirement System (TRS) is $46,000. Average age of retirement is 58, and the average years worked is 25. •For private-sector employees with college degrees, a career typically begins at age 22 and ends at its earliest after 40 years at age 62 or more likely after 44 years at age 66. For government-school teachers, on the other hand, less than one percent work 40 years or more before they retire, and the average teacher works only 25 years." You can read the rest at http://www.taxpayersunitedofamerica.org/
Robbie McCulkin June 15, 2012 at 08:08 am
I deleted my comment due to its slanderous nature.
Katy K June 15, 2012 at 12:55 pm
@Katie...you are sooo right. Retired teachers live across the street from me and their pension together is well over 95grand..they work 9 months out of the year and still bitch about pay. @ lettuce...cute blog name..not! Don't bash what you don't know...are you an english or grammar teacher? Whats your pension looking like?
David June 15, 2012 at 02:52 pm
I partially agree with you John. I think the pension plan would have been either more sustainable, or would have been scrapped if the state put in the amount they realistically should have.
What "should" have happened, is anything that results in a change to the pension payouts, should have a corresponding and immediate change in the pension funding (every teacher raise, every change in healthcare, changes to life expectancy, changes to expected interest rates... it is all computable - the pension plan would always be funded at 100% based on current data). Here is why I believe that didn't happen - I'd almost consider it a conspiracy theory. The elected politicians get votes and campaign contributions when they give in to union demands. Giving public union deferred benefits (like pensions) gets them immediate votes and campaign contributions, but since the benefits aren't payable for many years to come (after that politician leaves office) - someone else is left holding the bag. The unions get better pension benefits for their members - and they know the state is not fully funding the pensions, but instead of adding a constitutional ammendment to fully fund pensions - they get a constitutional ammendment added that the pension benefits can never be diminished. Why? Because there is no way the state can afford to fully fund the pensions, and the unions realize this. Now the state is in a bind - they can't reduce pensions, and the can't afford to fund them.
Deb June 15, 2012 at 02:54 pm
Hi Taxpayer Mike,
With regards to your comment, "Most professionals I know don't get an institute day. If I have a week of training, I have make up my work." So in the teaching situation, in order to gather all staff together to analyze data that considers school performance and how to target improvement, we would make our work: ergo, teaching when? Unfortunately, there is some need for administrators to convene district meetings during the school year. It allows for informed instruction. Now you are going to say, do that in the summer, but looking at data trends needs to be done throughout the school year. That is how educators make informed decisions.
It all comes out in the wash June 15, 2012 at 05:09 pm
196 comments and still growing. Entitlement comes to mind with all this.
Funding comes from taxes: With all this I had to ask myself it is really worth it to own a home in financial terms today? Well do we really ever own a home? For those that have paid off their mortgage (I bet the % is very low) you still don’t own it because the land it sits on and the associated taxes. And these continue to climb.There are no guarantees/entitlement for anyone and it doesn’t matter if you’re in the public sector or private. Just ask any older american who lived through the depression. A 401k and social security that most private sector employees are banking on being there when they retire may not be. For public sector employees including politicians, do you really believe there is a guarantee your retirement will be there? Local politicians don’t have a problem spending tax money for themselves personally just like county and state politicians. Manage the budget if it were you own. Until everyone realizes how serious these issues are and recognizes both sides need to change it’s only going to get worse. I read last week that for every new homeowner in the state of IL. there are two leaving. I hope this issue is resolved and the solution is fair for everyone.
Jim R June 16, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Unfortunately many still claim low pay and needed benefits that most of us can only dream about. I am tired of hearing people say teachers are so important so pay them more for the sake of our kids.
I do think they deserve pensions and a good wage but it has gone way to far, and the teachers and unions must learn we cannot afford it any longer. They better compromise or we should just let it go bankrupt which will leave them with nothing as at that point we should not be asked to bail out an unfair system.
Jim R June 16, 2012 at 02:26 pm
Unfortunatelty whether you own a home or do not, you are affected by real estate taxes. When you rent your contribution is built into the rent you pay. I feel sorry for so many that have gone under during this time. When I was in my 30's I was unemployed for a year. However when we purchased our house we put 50% down which gave the real estate agent a chuckle since he felt we had no problems but we did not like debt. We had also kept 6 months of salary in reserve to protect us from unknown financial problems. After a year we had gone into our funds and went into debt, but we were able to keep paying our debts. When I was back fulltime it took us years to pay everything back and we did not declare bankrupcy as is many times suggested today. The ones that upset me are those that knew they were going way over their heads and felt they could use the system for their benefit, driven by greed rather than responsibility. Those of us that have saved now get to pay their debt through what they did to the economy,
Jim R June 16, 2012 at 02:27 pm
Took 2 posts second half follows:
I feel similarly to those expecting good wages along with premium pensions, for we get to pay their abuse of the system as they and their unions ask for more and more. They say how dedicated they are, but go on strike to get more money for salaries and pension. Now the system is bankrupt and my feeling I do not want to bail out another group and I do not care what it says in the Illinois constitution since that can be amended. They either to clean up the situation by reducing oversized pensions and increase the retirement age to 66 or 67 with a penalty for those taking it early at 62, or we should let the whole system go into bankrupcy and we citizens should just walk away from it and let the congressman and other elected officials pay to this fund through their salaries. At this point I think all political officials who have acted irresponsibly in this pension mess should take a 20% pay cut since they have not done their job. Hopefully much of this will not be needed if true compomises may be made so the pensions are at a more reasonable level along with the top income owners. But at this time I think we are entitled to demand a 20% pay cut for the politicians. Quinn and Madigan would be good starting points since they have shownn they are part of the problem not the solution. My real estate taxes are too high and my senior reduction is a joke.
Ruth June 16, 2012 at 03:04 pm
Kudos to you, Jim, for being a responsible citizen by not buying a home that was out of your financial means, saving, and not filing bankrupcy when the going got tough!!! My husband and I were in the exact same situation and we also went through our cash savings. It sickens me that so many people were allowed to buy homes that were so far out of their financial means with little savings to act as a cushion if they lost a job. Now, WE, the responsible one's, are suffering two-fold. First, because we went through our savings to survive. Second, because the housing market has crashed, our homes are not worth nearly what we paid for them. I doubt we will ever see the day that Quinn and Madigan will take a pay cut to pay for their mistakes, but I like your sentiment on this issue. I also agree that compromises need to be made to clean up the pension mess, but not at the tax payers expense!
MaryfromIL June 18, 2012 at 04:45 pm
Jim,
Majority of politicians that made this mess are long gone. Remember, the state stopped funding the teacher pensions in the mid 1950's. It's only been in the last 10 years that the funding has been pretty decent. Nice of you to want to walk away from the teacher pension, how would you feel if the government walked away from your social security? Because this is the teacher's social security. And after you profited by paying lower taxes for decades than was needed. As for buying houses out of their means, back in the day when I bought my first house, most people bought there first house on a wing and a prayer, that was the norm. And people just got by for much of the time their kids were at home, there was no Suze Orman saving of 8 months income. That's because people weren't getting laid off.
MaryfromIL June 18, 2012 at 04:45 pm
I think half the reason people become so conservative in their older years, is because they don't actually remember what it was like in their younger years. Luckily, I have a good memory.
My sister, making the same kind of points you did, said, "Well I know you (meaning me) didn't overextend yourself". I have no idea what she is talking about, we had $17 left in our account after closing on our first house. And she wants everyone (a GOP talking point) to pay at least $100 in fed taxes. She grew up with a mom who was a poor widow on VA and Social security benefits and a paltry salary, who had to borrow from Household finance to pay the bills many times. As I said to her, if mom had to pay a $100 in taxes, she would have had to borrow it. In her late 50's, my sis doesn't remember.
Jim R June 18, 2012 at 08:54 pm
MaryfromIL, many of those politicians are retires and yes I am suggesting their abusive pensions be impacted. The problems are not all in the past as it continues with more demands. If you read my whole post I did not say to abandon pensions, unless it goes bankrupt because of greed. Sorry I do not want to support someone in their 50's who already taking their pension. I first suggested pensions, etc. come back inline without the gravy train that is allowed now by compromising with age changes and reducing some pensions. If nobody wants to negotiate, the problem is yours not mine and this is not abandonment. SS age was raised for my generation and it will be raised again, so if you are comparing your situation to SS we have already been impacted and we have much smaller amounts of income from SS and we have to pay for medicare and supplemental insurance and RX insurance to handle our health care. So yes I am complaining about those who asked for too much and those who gave into them which includes many current politicians. I cannot afford what was unfairly negotiated, and it is time some of it be brought back inline.
Jim R June 18, 2012 at 09:16 pm
MaryfromIL, oh I remember very well especially coming from a large family. As mentioned there was a year of unemployment, and we had to rely on credit which was all paid back after years. So there was less than $17, since going into debt we were in negative numbers but earned as we could to keep paying bills. It was years later when everything was paid back. I very well remember that time, since my marriage became even stronger because in sickness and health we were bound and we supported each other.
I am also aware of my mother first losing her mother and going to Europe with her father and then losing him. She was given money to come back to the states where she eventually met my father who cherished their family and emphasized religion, family, hard work, and education. They were not rich in money that they passed onto their children but they were rich in faith and spirit which they gave to their children who helped them to grow up. I would not have closed on a house with only $17, as it would not be financially sound. Our assumption was at least 20% down, and save until then. Unfortunately too many did buy homes without sufficient funds who should have been stopped. Remember our constitution does not guarantee happiness, but only your pursuit of it. The same may be said about those asking for more and those giving it to them without regard as to who would pay for it. Please do not say the state, since they only tax us to pay for their bills.
Kerry June 19, 2012 at 04:08 am
Actually ,it is not plenty. The entire private workforce does not work for the companies you mention. You even state yourself that a survey shows that pensions are down.The big difference is that the ones who do offer pensions are not funded by taxpayer dollars like teachers are.
Kerry June 19, 2012 at 04:27 am
Mary, actually The residents of Chicago have it made. They control the state and elect the Governor. The downstate voters and the burbs have been shafted by Chicago for years. The burbs have been paying a portion of your water bill for years.
Kerry June 19, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Not true ,John
Kerry June 19, 2012 at 03:30 pm
Mary, 17 dollars left? Thats how people got into trouble.
Kerry June 19, 2012 at 03:32 pm
Mary, actually paying more taxes is a Dem talking point.
Steve Woodward June 19, 2012 at 08:32 pm
Pew Center on the States newly released ranking shows IL once again 50th (!) in assets relative to (pension) liabilities. IL has a mere 45% of the assets needed to pay $139 BILLION in accrued liabilities, reports Crain's Chicago Business today (06.19). The time has come for bitter but effective medicine. Shift some of the burden to the local school districts. Force school boards to play hardball with the delusional teachers' unions to end spiraling property tax hikes. Stop making taxpayers pay the teacher' 9.4%. Stop the insanity and do it at the local level, where the taxpayers can keep a close eye and demand results.
Jim R June 19, 2012 at 09:01 pm
A shift at this time would place the burden on homeowners who are already overtaxed. The solution is not a shell game of where to tax but very simply abusive pensions for all those in the future and those receiving it now has to be reduced. This should best be accomplished by those who negotiated this pension burden for us. The public workers, unions, and politicians need to work out a settlement where reasonable pensions are given but not what is being given now. This would possibly call for an amendment to the state constitution, but the amendment should be easy to write, since a marker can be used to strike the guarantees of pensiin benefits out of the constitution.
Kerry June 20, 2012 at 11:51 am
You need to send them a large donation.
Jim R June 20, 2012 at 01:05 pm
I do not know that anyone here asked for them to disappear, but the absurd levels of pensions, start of pensions, and medical coverage were not fair requests made by the teachers and unions. The ploy was that they were so underpaid and they were teaching our children. Unfortunately some of the public bought into that story, but how aware were they of the salaries or the extreme benefits they receive.
With all of this money, the US has fallen to 17th in world ranking regarding education. Apparently you do not necessarily buy good teachers with these bloated benefits but you do buy many greedy ones. Yes there are some very good dedicated teachers and deserve decent benefits, but greed was pushed through the unions and our moronic government gave it to them but these officials also receive absurd benefits. Good case is Daley's $180,000 pension that is not just paid by Chicagoans but all of those in the state.
Lettuce June 27, 2012 at 08:21 pm
Oh, cute Katy K, I am an English teacher - capitalizing the E in English, as it is a proper noun and proper adjective. Schools don't have grammar teachers anymore. Actually, there never were. Grammar is a subcomponent of English or language arts. Perhaps you are thinking of the old term "grammar school," a phrase indicating what we now refer to as elementary school.
What pension? Because I taught in a state other than Illinois for the first 12 years of my career, my pension is looking to be about $20,000 a year. And I have to forfeit all my Social Security monies (earned over more than 15 years of full time employment) because I now will have an Illinois state "pension." This is all assuming that by the time I retire when I am 87, any of the pension monies "borrowed" or "redirected" by the state have been replenished. So I know plenty and I will bash what I wish. Perhaps you are barking up the wrong tree. Go attack someone with a cuter blog name - that apparently is very important to you - and says volumes.
Barry Allen June 27, 2012 at 09:56 pm
Lettuce, Just because you are a member of the TRS does not prevent you from receiving Social Security.
The TRS has a publication that addresses the issue ... it is not as cut and dried as you imply. I recommend you read: http://trs.illinois.gov/subsections/members/pubs/booklets/pub20.pdf which covers the issue.
Taxpayer_Mike June 27, 2012 at 10:50 pm
@Lettuce - english teacher eh! 'nuff said. If you can use your command of the English language to demean others, I will take license and do the same. The irony in all of this is we are all "gonna" get financially skewered in the end. The people making the "big" decisions have their pensions taken care leaving taxpayers and teachers languishing.
We should all agree that means testing is coming and it will affect both TRS and social security recipients. And lettuce, for my final jab, the real irony bills have to be written using the english language, maybe it's possible that them darn repersentives down yonder springfied dont no what their write-n or read-n.
brian a October 9, 2012 at 05:43 pm
If Illinois keeps raising their taxes prepare for a mas Exodus of residents (not just the wealthy)
If you can't afford to move sell all you have to a point you can move with one car. Or rent a truck with another family you know that is leaving. We here in Nebraska will welcome you...we have lots of jobs, way lower taxes, way lower cost of living and our traffic isn't full of angry Chicago drivers.
Tim October 9, 2012 at 06:12 pm
Lower taxes in Nebraska?
How is 6.84% in Nebraska state income tax, lower than 5%? Illinois income tax? http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/state-taxes-nebraska.aspx The only way taxes are lower in NE, is if someone makes less than $17K/yr. Sounds like you should be spending more money on education, especially math.

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