I'm sure all the pro conceal carry activists will blatantly ignore this.

Who knows whether he was or not, since the coward fled. However, given the area, it is at least probable that he legally obtained the weapon to begin with. I've gotten into plenty of roadside disputes over bad driving (sometimes me, sometimes another driver). The worst my incidents have ended with is a middle finger being hoisted, not someone getting shot.

Unfortunately, that's irrelevant. Unless he was a concealed carry holder, which of course, he was not, since we're in the only state in the country that doesn't offer one, this couldn't possibly be used as a case against concealed carry. Anyone who says "Oh look! Another shooting! Ban the guns!" does not understand the issue. The people doing the shooting will not obey the laws we pass. All these laws do is prevent law-abiding citizens from defending themselves against the people who disregard the laws anyway.

Doesn't really matter. The point is that he would have had the opportunity and means to defend himself, both of which we are currently stripped.

I have a medal in marksmanship on the 9 mil via my service in the military. I would not have earned that medal if I had to shoot from a car seat with my seat belt on.

Real quick, also want to say I'm the glad the guy who got shot lived. He did not deserve what he got even if he cut the guy off.

That's great shooting - in all seriousness, from one shooter to another.

My point, thought, is not this one situation we're getting zeroed in on here. There is an entire range of situations that could happen and do happen every day, in which the opportunity and means to defend oneself should be a right that is not restricted.

And by the way, thank you for your service. Disagreement or not, that's one thing for which I will always say thank you.

Was the shooter legally allowed to own a firearm (not a felon)??? Are we absolutely sure this was NOT a self defense shooting????

I'm sure all the anti-gunners will blatantly try and use this to push their "guns are bad" agenda.

people this is Illinois no one can carry.who cares if it was self defense you can't carry(ILLINOIS ONLY)..And your nuts to think If It was legal to conceal carry I would be ready to defend myself from some guy who gets off the road after I cut him off to confront me.BAD GUYS WILL ALWAYS HAVE GUNS. BUT THEY WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE CAREFUL WHO THEY POINT THEM AT IF ILLINOIS HAD CONCEAL CARRY.CONCEAL CARRY PERMITS TO GUN OWNERS WHO ARE CHECKED BY THE STATE POLICE BEFORE ISSUED....OR JUST LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS HAVE THE BAD GUYS WHO CAN CARE LESS ABOUT LAWS JUST HAVE GUNS.

I'm going to take some time and list all the states in the country without conceal carry.

1.ILLINOIS

NOW IF I WAS A BAD DUDE WHERE WOULD I TRY TO MURDER RAPE BEAT STEAL ETC ETC?

Have to agree with CC here. We need CCW here in COOK cty and the rest of the state of IL. I want the option to protect my family if this situation should ever arise when I am at Target shopping, or god forbid something like the Lane Bryant shooting were to happen again.

The shooter may have been less likely to pull a gun on someone if he thought that there was a chance that the other person had a firearm on them. That is why CC causes crime to drop. Since the shooter was in Illinois the chance someone else was carrying is extremely small since it is against the law, therefore there was no deterrent.

Excellent idea , whenever a new baby is born in IL along with their birth certificate and ss# they should all be issued a handgun and ammo. That way there would never be another shooting.

Hank, I think you missed the point. Right now only the bad guys have guns, there is nothing to make them think twice about using their weapon against you or me or my mother, daughter or wife. More guns in the hands of law abiding, responsible, trained individuals would bring crime down and give the innocent a chance.

Robert, I am not suggesting if we had cc that this situation could have been avoided. However there is a big reason to suggest the shooter didn't think the other driver had a gun and that is that 99% of the population follows the gun laws of the land. The law in this state doesn't allow any type of open or concealed carry. His odds were near 100% that he was facing an unarmed man. That is the problem! Had the driver been armed maybe the situation would have played out exactly the same way it did. I still contend that if we had cc the bad guys would have to think twice and some of them would choose not to go ahead with the crime.

Let me ask you this for those of you who are against concealed carry. Name for me one of the 49 other states that allow concealed carry, that has initiated legislation to repeal that right.

49 other states can not be wrong! If Miami, New York and Los Angeles can function with concealed carry without the wild west breaking out then so can Chicago. Chicago members of the state house of representatives are the only thing holding back Illinois at this time. The courts are trending in favor of the 2nd amendment and this issue will end up in front of the supreme court soon if Illinois does not get on board.

I'm neither for or against CC, since I can think of plenty of pros and cons on both sides of the coin.

However, I am very much for math, and statistical studies, when not done by an organization with bias, show that CC does not improve crime rates or make it any less likely one will get assaulted.

The argument of "if only bad guys have guns, then we are defenseless" while making sense on it's surface doesn't really play out statistically, since bad guys will STILL carry guns and most people still won't.

Sure a small percentage of people will. That statistically small group is mathematically very unlikely to ever have a legal reason to pull their gun in self-defense.

Anyone who thinks a CC law would have defused this situation has a very depressing worldview where everyone is paranoid about everyone and all confrontations at least begin with a veritable showdown of who has easiest access to their pistol.

Me? I'll still go for the handshake and apology. It's worked for me so far and I've lived in quite a bit more "dangerous" areas than Lemont.

Thank you Spencer and Robert, I agree . I assume you all know I was being sarcastic in my previous statement. I personally do not wish to live in a society where everyone is presumed to be packing heat at all times. Yes the bad guys will always have guns and yes even if a cc law is passed in IL that will not assure you can "protect your wife and kids". Given any disagreeable situation whether it be road rage or an argument with your neighbor or a domestic dispute , I really don't think throwing guns into the mix are going to make it better.

Sounds kinda dumb to me! If there was no contact made between the 2 vehicles then why did the guy stop??? To apologize to the guy he cut off??? That is a big pile of BS!!! There is more to this story, alot more. I am thinking their rendezvous at the forest preserve didn't go as well as hoped!

I was just being a smarta$$! i guarantee that driver A cut off driver B! Driver B yes, curses and flips of Driver A. Driver A then pulls over to escalate the confrontation, (because no one would ever, EVER pull over to confront a road rager UNLESS THEY WERE TRYING TO START A FIGHT) Driver A confronts, driver B in an aggressive manner and Driver B defends himself. Simple explanation. More than likely this is what happened. This is not a gun rights issue, driver b protected himself. Bottom line is everyone should be allowed to defend themselves.

For all the anti conceal carry posters - I, for one of many, would much rather have a firearm on me and NOT need it, than NEED a firearm and not be ALLOWED to have it.

The 2nd Amendment IS my permission slip / license.

To those who believe Illinois should allow it's citizens to excercise their 2nd Amenment rights - just like all other 49 states do, please note that Jim Durkin, IL 82nd Dist. Rep (Lemont area) was 1 of only 3 republicans that voted AGAINST your right to do so!! He IS being challenged in the upcoming primary - vote him out of office!!

"That said, until the law is changed, no one should be carrying a gun on them unless they're a police officer."

Tell that to the numerous individuals, and otherwise law abiding citizens, that have averted grave bodily harm/dealth, by "illegally" enjoying their 2nd Amendment right here in Illinois. Just saying.

According to more complete reports, there was chasing and light flashing etc... prior to the shooting. If I were involved in similar situation, I might pull over if I were afraid that the truck was going to run my car off the road, at 50mph or higher, in the middle of the woods, where the trees are less than 30 feet away from the roadway......yes I'd pull over not necessarily to fight, but to prevent a car + tree situation. . I've never been shot, but I have been in car accident and know many people who have been seriously injured, and my brother in law was killed in a car accident. Maybe the tree will jump out of the way for you.

I guess everyone's first impression comes from what they would do in similar situation, so where does this "rendesvous" come from? Stopping to avoid death by auto accident seems more likely than some nefarious activity that is not reported by ANY news agency.

Thats the problem! its the NEWS! It is nothing but media hype! NO ONE knows what happened. it is all speculation. Were they trying to fight? Did their meeting in the woods this morning go bad? Was it really a road rage incident? Who knows? you can't believe a word that comes from the media! that is why you are called sheeple, you are herded around by the information presented to you, without giving it one shred of independent thought! My speculation is that this incident excalated into a confrontation! by both parties. I am not saying that someone should have been shot, they could have both been hotheaded. we just don't know. it is LEGAL to carry your firearm in the console or glove box as long as the magazine or ammunition is not in it. It can be right next to the firearm but it has to be unloaded. i don't see this as a case of selfe defense or the guy wouldn't have left the scene. The problem here is that all we have heard is what the media has said!!